When He Shuts Down, Gets Defensive, or
Avoids Deep Conversation

Free 8-minute audio training from masculine leadership coach Jesse Chen

What This Is

You know the pattern.

You try to have a real conversation. He shuts down, gets defensive, or changes the subject.

You're left feeling unheard, disconnected, and like you're talking to a wall.

Most women try harder, push more, or give up entirely. None of these work.

There's a different approach - one that honors both of you while creating space for real connection.

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